Audio Roundup 2024:8

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by Joel Rich

The gemara (chulin 101b) is discussing isur mosif/collel. It is analyzing the case of yom kippur that falls on shabbat and trying to explain the opinion that if one violated shabbat bshogeg but yom kippur bmeizid, he’d be chayav but if he violated shabat bmeizid, but yom kippur bshogeg, he’d be patur. Abaye explains the reason as shabbat kvia vkayme (it’s set since sheishet ymei bereshit) whereas yom kippur bei dinia dkakava lei (it’s dependent on when bet din declares the month.) Rava rejects this approach with, “in the end they both come together” and provides a historical answer (based on shoat hashmad). Is this an argument based on historical mesora? On what basis did rava reject abaye? What did they see differently?

A recent article in Hakirah discussed call Kol Nidre and the initial overwhelming rabbibic opposition to it being said. While no one knows for sure, I remember learning that it was almost demanded by amcha because of their having made coerced commitments to other religions which they wanted to disavow.

I wonder how many other practices that seem at odds with what the pure would demand are due to amcha insisting on them. A delicate dance between the people and the gedolim?

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About Joel Rich

Joel Rich is a frequent wannabee cyberspace lecturer on various Torah topics. A Yerushalmi formerly temporarily living in West Orange, NJ, his former employer and the Social Security administration support his Torah listening habits. He is a recovering consulting actuary.

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