Audio Roundup 2021:38

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by Joel Rich

The Mishna (Shabbat 22:1) says חָבִית שֶׁנִּשְׁבְּרָה, מַצִּילִין הֵימֶנָּה מְזוֹן שָׁלֹשׁ סְעֻדּוֹת, וְאוֹמֵר לַאֲחֵרִים, בֹּאוּ וְהַצִּילוּ לָכֶם, וּבִלְבַד שֶׁלֹּא יִסְפֹּג. אֵין סוֹחֲטִין אֶת הַפֵּרוֹת לְהוֹצִיא מֵהֶן מַשְׁקִין, וְאִם יָצְאוּ מֵעַצְמָן, אֲסוּרִין. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר, אִם לְאֳכָלִין, הַיּוֹצֵא מֵהֶן מֻתָּר, וְאִם לְמַשְׁקִין, הַיּוֹצֵא מֵהֶן אָסוּר. חַלּוֹת דְּבַשׁ שֶׁרִסְּקָן מֵעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת וְיָצְאוּ מֵעַצְמָן, אֲסוּרִין. וְרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר מַתִּיר:
From a barrel of wine or oil that broke on Shabbat, one may rescue from it food sufficient for three meals, and one may also say to others: Come and rescue food for yourselves. This applies provided that one does not soak up the wine or oil with a sponge or rag, due to the prohibition of squeezing. One may not squeeze fruits on Shabbat in order to extract liquids from them. And if liquids seeped out on their own, it is prohibited to use them on Shabbat. Rabbi Yehuda says: If the fruits were designated for eating, the liquid that seeps from them on Shabbat is permitted. There is no concern lest one purposely squeeze liquids from fruit that is designated for eating. And if the fruits were originally designated for liquids, the liquids that seep from them on Shabbat are prohibited. In the case of honeycombs that one crushed on Shabbat eve, and honey and wax seeped from them on their own on Shabbat, they are prohibited, and Rabbi Eliezer permits using them.. The commentators all limit even others to three meals worth. The reason generally given for the limit is “adam bahul al mamono” and thus the owner might violate Shabbat to save more/all of the barrel. This limit is extended to the others as well. Given the endowment effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect) how would you explain not distinguishing between the owner and others?


The Rambam in Hilchot Tshuva describes tshuva gmura as being in the exact same circumstances and committing the same sin. Should one put oneself in this position to accomplish tshuva gemura


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About Joel Rich

Joel Rich is a frequent local lecturer on various Torah topics in West Orange, NJ and supports his Torah listening habits by working as a consulting actuary.

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