Participation in a Siyum by Skype

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by R. Daniel Mann

Question: On Erev Pesach, I will be in a small Jewish community that will not have a siyum. Is it permitted for me – a bechor[1]Firstborn. – to break the ta’anit bechorot[2]The fast of the firstborn. based on a siyum[3]The completion of a significant section of Torah. in which I “participate” via Skype? 

Answer: In the context of the halacha not to fast throughout the month of Nisan, Massechet Sofrim[4]21:1. states that an exception is that bechorot fast on Erev Pesach. The Tur[5]Orach Chayim 470. and Shulchan Aruch[6]Orach Chayim 470:1. cite this practice as normative, and the Tur explains that it is in commemoration of the miracle that the Jewish firstborns were saved in Egypt.

The idea that one may eat at a seudat mitzva and thereby cancel the fast is debated among the Acharonim. The Magen Avraham[7]Ad loc. in the introduction to the siman. does not allow firstborns to eat even at a brit mila on Erev Pesach. The Mishna Berura[8]Ad loc. 10. reports, however, that the minhag in his time was to allow eating at seudot mitzva, including the meal at a siyum. The idea that a siyum meal can serve this role as a seudat mitzva is found in the Rama[9]Orach Chayim 551:10. regarding the permissibility of eating meat and drinking wine at a seudat mitzva during the Nine Days.

In these contexts, there is room to distinguish between those people who are the main individuals involved in the seudat mitzva, for whom the day is like a Yom Tov, and the other participants. For example, one who is a sandek on the day of his parent’s yahrtzeit may eat on that day, even if he ordinarily follows the minhag of fasting on that day, whereas a simple participant in the brit may not.[10]Mishna Berura 568:46. Similarly, even those who do not allow firstborns to eat at another’s seudat mitzva are lenient regarding a firstborn who serves as the mohel or sandek, as well as the father of the circumcised baby.[11]Ibid. 470:10. In any event, the minhag is to allow all participants at a siyum to eat at the siyum’s meal, and as a result, to continue eating the rest of Erev Pesach

The simple logic for this leniency is that each individual’s participation makes the celebration more special, thus heightening the ba’al simcha’s[12]The person to whom the happy event is directly related. event. Therefore, participation in the ba’al simcha’s meal is what is crucial regarding our discussion. Indeed, some allow even a firstborn who missed the siyum itself to take part in the seudat mitzva.[13]See Teshuvot V’Hanhagot II:210. Following the logic that it is the enhancement of the ba’al simcha’s event that matters, the Minchat Yitzchak[14]VIII:45. says that even the Chavot Yair,[15]Shut Chavot Yair 70. who rules that a meal held the day after the siyum was made is still considered a seudat mitzva, is discussing only a seuda in which the one who made the siyum participates. 

The gemara[16]Shabbat 118b-119a. relates that Abaye was especially emotionally involved in the Torah successes of others, to the extent that he would make a party for the rabbis when a young scholar finished a massechet. Some[17]See Az Nidberu XII:58. understand that the halachic status of such a party extends even to one who is not present at all at the celebration of the one who finished the Torah section; the vicarious joy of all those who are happy about the siyum is equivalent to their participation in the seudat mitzva. The Minchat Yitzchak[18]IX:45. writes that according to this approach (which he discourages relying upon but considers legitimate), one can be considered a “participant” in the seudat mitzva even if he does not actually eat together with the main party.

In most cases, it would not seem logical to consider one who “takes part” in a seudat mitzva via Skype as being a halachic participant, certainly in regards to increasing the simcha of the one who made the siyum. However, according to the approach that anyone connected to the siyum is entitled to celebrate his happiness due to the occasion, it is at least somewhat plausible to say that witnessing the event via Skype is sufficiently significant. 

A number of authorities take a surprisingly lenient approach about siyum standards for ta’anit bechorot,[19]Including Az Nidberu and Teshuvot V’Hanhagot op. cit.; Yabia Omer, I, Orach Chayim 26, is quite stringent. relying heavily on the following two factors: 1) The fast is only a minhag. 2) For many people, fasting would have a significantly negative impact on the Seder. While not actually cancelling the minhag, some seem to lower the bar of who is included in the siyum, such that they enable almost anyone to eat. If one feels a need to be lenient, Skype participation can indeed be contemplated. If so, it is best to watch the siyum and celebrate it as a group, and/or to witness a siyum that brings one true simcha (e.g., based on one’s connection to the person or to the level of accomplishment).

We now apply our past response to those under Coronavirus quarantine or limitation on gatherings if the present situation (as of the time of this writing) persists. There are important factors that indicate that it is fully permissible, even as a single participant, to eat based on remote participation in a siyum via live streaming. In the area of need, many people will be unable to take part in a siyum in person, which creates a she’at hadechak, as above. This is combined with the fact that doctors have raised reservations about the advisability of fasting during the time of a serious infectious outbreak. 

On a more positive note, such remote participation in a siyum has much more power than usual. While normally, such participation is abnormal, which detracts from its efficacy, this is presently the “new (temporary) normal.” Furthermore, the one who makes the siyum will be fully aware of his remote participants, and he will be honored and touched to share his personal simcha with many others, instead of being limited to a small group where he is. The remote participants will also feel part of the simcha, as the light of Torah, which unites us at happy times, like the recent siyum hashas, unites us as well in difficult times. 

Undoubtedly then, taking part in such a siyum at this time is absolutely fine. In contrast, if one would have to break or even bend the instructions or advice of medical authorities and/or one’s rabbi, chas v’shalom, to take part in a siyum in person, that is unacceptable.  


2The fast of the firstborn.
3The completion of a significant section of Torah.
5Orach Chayim 470.
6Orach Chayim 470:1.
7Ad loc. in the introduction to the siman.
8Ad loc. 10.
9Orach Chayim 551:10.
10Mishna Berura 568:46.
11Ibid. 470:10.
12The person to whom the happy event is directly related.
13See Teshuvot V’Hanhagot II:210.
15Shut Chavot Yair 70.
16Shabbat 118b-119a.
17See Az Nidberu XII:58.
19Including Az Nidberu and Teshuvot V’Hanhagot op. cit.; Yabia Omer, I, Orach Chayim 26, is quite stringent.

About Daniel Mann

This column is produced on behalf of Eretz Hemdah by Rabbi Daniel Mann. Rabbi Mann is a Dayan for Eretz Hemdah and a staff member of Yeshiva University's Gruss Kollel in Israel. He is a senior member of the Eretz Hemdah responder staff, editor of Hemdat Yamim and the author of Living the Halachic Process, volumes 1 and 2 and A Glimpse of Greatness.

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