Check out the Hakdamah to the Kunteras in which R. Hutner strongly implies that he personally edited the commentary of Rabeinu Hillel on Sifra from the manuscript discovered by R. Hutner in Vienna. In the published edition of Rabeinu Hillel, however, editorial credit goes R. Shachna Koledetzky, with merely some comments by R. Hutner appearing in the back of the volume (originally published anonymously). Does anyone know the story behind this?
Good segue from R. Naftoli Tzvi Yehudah Berlin to R. Chaim Berlin, his son. 😉
I have wondered if Yeshivas Rabbeinu Chaim Berlin ever had any special relationship with the Rabbi Berlins beyond the name of the Yeshiva. For example, if they accorded special status to their Torah or derech halimud.
One usually associates other gedolim, such as Maharal, with that Yeshiva. I suspect that the paths of the Maharal and the Netziv actually have certain similarities though.
Moshe This is a question to ask of Prof. Menahem Kahana of the Hebrew University who is an expert on midrash halakhah and always recommends that students use R. Hillel
Yoni-I think that I would prefer to read anything about R Y Hutner, ZL, anywhere but frumteens. Again, I don”t think that I am alone in stating that there is a real void of any real intellectual bio or articles about R Hutner ZL, his derech, hashkafic changes and his influence.
Litvak-if you have learned the Netziv and the Maharal’s writings, one would be hard pressed to find similarities thereto.
“Rav Hutner’s Rav Kook phase was quite brief. The picture came down from his Succah already in the 1950′s.”
That alone would make his Rav Kook “phase” at least twenty years long, not exactly what I would call quite brief.
Aside from that, Rav Hutner’s entire Maharal/pseudo-Chassidus approach came from Rav Kook and Rav YM Charlop, so I would posit that his Rav Kook phase lasted to the end of his life, and moreso, is what shapes Chaim Berlin to this day.
Rav Kook was in Rav Hutner’s past. He is ignored in Chaim berlin – like he is in other Yeshivos. You will not know when his yohrtzeit is; you will know nothing about him.
Except maybe that the Rosh yeshiva took down his picture form his Sukkah.
And though you will not find any of his seforim in the Bais HaMedrash – a Bais Hamedrahs that prides itself on its learning of Machshava more than the average Yeshiva – you will find the Frankel Rambams. All of them.
If you go to Chaim berlin you will hear of one of Rav Hutner’s most successful Talmidim, Rav Yisroel Elya Weintraub ZT’L, who wrote in one of his seforim about how Rav Kook was “grabbed by the Sitra Achra” – and on one print, even mentioned him by name.
Check out the Hakdamah to the Kunteras in which R. Hutner strongly implies that he personally edited the commentary of Rabeinu Hillel on Sifra from the manuscript discovered by R. Hutner in Vienna. In the published edition of Rabeinu Hillel, however, editorial credit goes R. Shachna Koledetzky, with merely some comments by R. Hutner appearing in the back of the volume (originally published anonymously). Does anyone know the story behind this?
Interesting to compare this post to the one on the Netziv. Manuscripts are treif; Midrash Halakha is treif; this is…wow.
This is from Rav Hutner’s Rav Kook phase. Manuscripts are treif, midrash is treif, Rav Kook is…
Good segue from R. Naftoli Tzvi Yehudah Berlin to R. Chaim Berlin, his son. 😉
I have wondered if Yeshivas Rabbeinu Chaim Berlin ever had any special relationship with the Rabbi Berlins beyond the name of the Yeshiva. For example, if they accorded special status to their Torah or derech halimud.
One usually associates other gedolim, such as Maharal, with that Yeshiva. I suspect that the paths of the Maharal and the Netziv actually have certain similarities though.
“I have wondered if Yeshivas Rabbeinu Chaim Berlin ever had any special relationship with the Rabbi Berlins beyond the name of the Yeshiva.”
The answer is no.
Moshe
This is a question to ask of Prof. Menahem Kahana of the Hebrew University who is an expert on midrash halakhah and always recommends that students use R. Hillel
How can I contact Professor Kahana?
http://www.huji.ac.il/dataj/controller/ihoker/MOP-STAFF_LINK?sno=968984&Save_t=
This is from Rav Hutner’s Rav Kook phase. Manuscripts are treif, midrash is treif, Rav Kook is…
Rav Hutner’s Rav Kook phase was quite brief. The picture came down from his Succah already in the 1950’s.
It is remarkable that RYH’s career, intellectual changes and hashkafic writings remain far more a guarded secret than that of RYBS or RSZA.
Rav Hutner changed his hashkafic opinions greatly. Read this:
http://classic.frumteens.com/topic.php?topic_id=62739&forum_id=45&topic_title=R+Shteinman+and+others&forum_title=Zionists%2C+and+Arabs%2C+and+Eretz+Yisroel&M=0
Yoni-I think that I would prefer to read anything about R Y Hutner, ZL, anywhere but frumteens. Again, I don”t think that I am alone in stating that there is a real void of any real intellectual bio or articles about R Hutner ZL, his derech, hashkafic changes and his influence.
Litvak-if you have learned the Netziv and the Maharal’s writings, one would be hard pressed to find similarities thereto.
“Rav Hutner’s Rav Kook phase was quite brief. The picture came down from his Succah already in the 1950′s.”
That alone would make his Rav Kook “phase” at least twenty years long, not exactly what I would call quite brief.
Aside from that, Rav Hutner’s entire Maharal/pseudo-Chassidus approach came from Rav Kook and Rav YM Charlop, so I would posit that his Rav Kook phase lasted to the end of his life, and moreso, is what shapes Chaim Berlin to this day.
Rav Kook was in Rav Hutner’s past. He is ignored in Chaim berlin – like he is in other Yeshivos. You will not know when his yohrtzeit is; you will know nothing about him.
Except maybe that the Rosh yeshiva took down his picture form his Sukkah.
And though you will not find any of his seforim in the Bais HaMedrash – a Bais Hamedrahs that prides itself on its learning of Machshava more than the average Yeshiva – you will find the Frankel Rambams. All of them.
If you go to Chaim berlin you will hear of one of Rav Hutner’s most successful Talmidim, Rav Yisroel Elya Weintraub ZT’L, who wrote in one of his seforim about how Rav Kook was “grabbed by the Sitra Achra” – and on one print, even mentioned him by name.
i must have missed this post whemn it originally ran. see http://onthemainline.blogspot.com/2013/02/rabbi-mayer-bar-ilans-visit-to-chaim.html