Comments for Torah Musings http://www.torahmusings.com Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:25:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9 Comment on Writing Midrash Avot by Gil Student http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/writing-midrash-avot/#comment-74141 Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:25:44 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21419#comment-74141 http://web.archive.org/web/20110815032930/http://www.yasharbooks.com/

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Comment on Writing Midrash Avot by shaul shapira http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/writing-midrash-avot/#comment-74139 Wed, 23 Apr 2014 18:35:44 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21419#comment-74139 Is there anyway to access the rest of the stuff from Yashar press?

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Comment on Daily Reyd by Reb Yid http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/daily-reyd-146/#comment-74118 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 22:14:07 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21406#comment-74118 MMH: Hillel would have done it on Pesach Rishon. The fact that (most of) our haggada/os quote the verse from sefer Bemidbar instead of sefer Shemos has been discussed at length, for example http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=51449&st=&pgnum=108 etc. But it shouldn’t fool you into thinking that Hillel was only doing it for pesach sheini (or pesach mitzrayim? Where would that come from?)

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Comment on Daily Reyd by Tal Benschar http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/daily-reyd-146/#comment-74116 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:14:05 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21406#comment-74116 Micha, I hear you, but really, we are not talking about reports of a miracle or something fantastic. We are talking about making a sandwich. Our tradition says that one sage did that as part of his Passover ritual. Why in the world would the Talmudic sages make that up? To get (non-existent) royalty rights from the Earl of Sandwich 1700 years later?

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Comment on Daily Reyd by Tal Benschar http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/daily-reyd-146/#comment-74115 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:07:25 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21406#comment-74115 The problem is that his statement implies that the whole thing may not be historically accurate, when there is no reason to think otherwise. It is clear that Hillel took a piece of the korban pesach, a piece of maror (probably a kind of lettuce) and wrapped them in matzoh. Yes, you can quibble a bit about this or that detail, but that means Hillel was eating a “sandwich,” or more like what we would today call a wrap.

What I am objecting to is the implication (taken by the author) that the whole thing was made up. Which is nonsense, this is not an aggadata about how big Og’s crib was, it is a report about how a tanna fufilled a mitzvah. No reason to doubt its historical accuracy.

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Comment on Style of Haggadah Commentaries by MiMedinat HaYam http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/style-of-haggadah-commentaries/#comment-74114 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 15:05:38 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21408#comment-74114 Abraham Yaari has well over 2500 haggadot in his bibliographies, and thats only in print, and doesnt count haggadot with several commentaries.

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Comment on Daily Reyd by MiMedinat HaYam http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/daily-reyd-146/#comment-74113 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:55:17 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21406#comment-74113 Not like a deli sandwich today, since modern (improper) chumrot today forbid sandwiches as “matzah shruya”.

Anyway, Hillel’s innovation was not the “sandwich”, it was doing it on pesach. DeOrayta, it is only required on pesach sheni (and pesach mitzrayim.)

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Comment on Daily Reyd by Gil Student http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/daily-reyd-146/#comment-74112 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:45:45 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21406#comment-74112 Even if everything you are saying is correct, how is that detract from it being a sandwich? If anything, it is more like a sandwich you would eat in any deli today.

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Comment on Daily Reyd by Nachum Lamm http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/daily-reyd-146/#comment-74111 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:12:59 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21406#comment-74111 Tal, what’s the problem? I don’t think anyone says that it’s out of the question that the barayta is citing something Hillel did, and that what he did involved combining the three elements somehow. The question is how exactly he did it. I don’t think it’s too revolutionary to point out that he had meat in his; nor that his marror was not grated horseradish; nor that his matza was not hard. Put all that together, and our “korech” resembles his barely if at all.

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Comment on Daily Reyd by micha http://www.torahmusings.com/2014/04/daily-reyd-146/#comment-74110 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 12:23:35 +0000 http://www.torahmusings.com/?p=21406#comment-74110 His audience at CS Monitor is largely people who would confuse critical thought with bing critical. And certainly don’t share the assumed trust in Chazal you’re demanding.

In any case, wraps are far older than Hillel. The skeptics have no reason to be skeptical.

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